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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Internet to Promote a Book (without really trying). by Pavarti Devi</title>
		<link>http://diabolicaltoy.com/2011/05/12/how-to-use-the-internet-to-promote-a-book-without-really-trying/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pavarti Devi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with everything here, but oh for an original idea...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything here, but oh for an original idea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Internet to Promote a Book (without really trying). by Evil Genius</title>
		<link>http://diabolicaltoy.com/2011/05/12/how-to-use-the-internet-to-promote-a-book-without-really-trying/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil Genius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 18:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t agree more: that&#039;s the whole point of this article.  

I believe that marketing is simply a way to reveal a product to the consumer that&#039;s looking for it.  Meeting a desire or need rather than convincing someone to buy.  The best marketing is really just an extension of the product, in this case, the author and her works.  

In the cases that I mention, the author put a great deal of work into creating a community around a project about which he was passionate.  Passion and commitment are key... hence this model which does not relate directly to selling a particular book: rather creating a project that delivers value;

This sort of initiative has to be something the author would be committed to doing even if there were no book to sell.  That sort of originality and service are what make this sort of initiative work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more: that&#8217;s the whole point of this article.  </p>
<p>I believe that marketing is simply a way to reveal a product to the consumer that&#8217;s looking for it.  Meeting a desire or need rather than convincing someone to buy.  The best marketing is really just an extension of the product, in this case, the author and her works.  </p>
<p>In the cases that I mention, the author put a great deal of work into creating a community around a project about which he was passionate.  Passion and commitment are key&#8230; hence this model which does not relate directly to selling a particular book: rather creating a project that delivers value;</p>
<p>This sort of initiative has to be something the author would be committed to doing even if there were no book to sell.  That sort of originality and service are what make this sort of initiative work!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Internet to Promote a Book (without really trying). by Kenney Mencher</title>
		<link>http://diabolicaltoy.com/2011/05/12/how-to-use-the-internet-to-promote-a-book-without-really-trying/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenney Mencher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 19:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that the ideas are sound, but marketing just for the sake of marketing negates some of the initial inspiration.  

FUN is so overlooked in marketing.  Be sincere and try not to think of the project as one in which you are looking to &quot;score.&quot;  (Ya know, profit before all.)  

I think that promotion should be a sort of performance art piece in which you truly interact with the people who are reading your stuff. I love all the conversations that I have with people who visit my blog.  Also probably one of the most important things is to have incredible quality content.  

The other thing that Kay points out, is to give something away.  (For example I give away original fine art that depicts the characters.)  I also spend a ton of money which Kay seams to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the ideas are sound, but marketing just for the sake of marketing negates some of the initial inspiration.  </p>
<p>FUN is so overlooked in marketing.  Be sincere and try not to think of the project as one in which you are looking to &#8220;score.&#8221;  (Ya know, profit before all.)  </p>
<p>I think that promotion should be a sort of performance art piece in which you truly interact with the people who are reading your stuff. I love all the conversations that I have with people who visit my blog.  Also probably one of the most important things is to have incredible quality content.  </p>
<p>The other thing that Kay points out, is to give something away.  (For example I give away original fine art that depicts the characters.)  I also spend a ton of money which Kay seams to do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Internet to Promote a Book (without really trying). by Evil Genius</title>
		<link>http://diabolicaltoy.com/2011/05/12/how-to-use-the-internet-to-promote-a-book-without-really-trying/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil Genius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 21:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for pointing that out Kay... Each project profiled took hundreds of hours over months or years of time, and none were designed to market a specific book.  My point is that they were original, took a great deal of time, and created a special community that supported the author in the long run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing that out Kay&#8230; Each project profiled took hundreds of hours over months or years of time, and none were designed to market a specific book.  My point is that they were original, took a great deal of time, and created a special community that supported the author in the long run.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Internet to Promote a Book (without really trying). by Kay Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://diabolicaltoy.com/2011/05/12/how-to-use-the-internet-to-promote-a-book-without-really-trying/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kay Cassidy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 21:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks so much for the shout-out, Gabriel!  What lovely company you&#039;ve put me in.  I&#039;m flattered.  :-)

I did want to add a couple of points that may not be apparent in the notes above.  In reality, the national Great Scavenger Hunt Contest reading program for kids and teens costs *many* times the $600 that goes toward the reader prizes.  The prizes are actually a very small % of the overall expense.  The Hunt also takes up 100s of hours of my time each year to manage the program for 800+ libraries across the US and Canada.  Time that could be spent writing (which is, of course, my job).  :-)  

So just a caveat to any authors out there considering something of this magnitude, please keep in mind that this particular program costs thousands of dollars to run each year and all of that money comes out of my own pocket, regardless of whether I happen to be under contract at any particular moment.  Plus, if I didn&#039;t have the Hunt to run, I could easily write another book each year in the time I would save.

Those are two huge trade-offs I recognized up front when I designed the Great Scavenger Hunt Contest. I consciously decided I was willing to make those trade-offs because I&#039;m passionate about keeping kids reading when they have 101 other things vying for their attention. For me, the Hunt is about philanthropy rather than marketing. It can serve as a marketing vehicle as well - both for me and for the 200+ YA and middle grades authors participating - but it&#039;s first and foremost a charitable outreach.  And since it eats up a large chunk of my writing income plus keeps me from writing an extra book a year to generate income for my family, it&#039;s a trade-off I wouldn&#039;t recommend to every author unless the program they&#039;re designing is something they are truly passionate about.

The last thing to keep in mind is that, with a program like this, it&#039;s an ongoing year-round reading initiative.  In my case, that means I don&#039;t get to take a break from it when I&#039;m deep in deadline mode or am finally taking a vacation with my family.  There are plenty of days where I feel like I have a second job... except instead of paying me, *I* pay *it*.  ;-)  It&#039;s only because I&#039;m passionate about keeping kids reading that it makes it all worthwhile in the end.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the shout-out, Gabriel!  What lovely company you&#8217;ve put me in.  I&#8217;m flattered.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I did want to add a couple of points that may not be apparent in the notes above.  In reality, the national Great Scavenger Hunt Contest reading program for kids and teens costs *many* times the $600 that goes toward the reader prizes.  The prizes are actually a very small % of the overall expense.  The Hunt also takes up 100s of hours of my time each year to manage the program for 800+ libraries across the US and Canada.  Time that could be spent writing (which is, of course, my job).  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>So just a caveat to any authors out there considering something of this magnitude, please keep in mind that this particular program costs thousands of dollars to run each year and all of that money comes out of my own pocket, regardless of whether I happen to be under contract at any particular moment.  Plus, if I didn&#8217;t have the Hunt to run, I could easily write another book each year in the time I would save.</p>
<p>Those are two huge trade-offs I recognized up front when I designed the Great Scavenger Hunt Contest. I consciously decided I was willing to make those trade-offs because I&#8217;m passionate about keeping kids reading when they have 101 other things vying for their attention. For me, the Hunt is about philanthropy rather than marketing. It can serve as a marketing vehicle as well &#8211; both for me and for the 200+ YA and middle grades authors participating &#8211; but it&#8217;s first and foremost a charitable outreach.  And since it eats up a large chunk of my writing income plus keeps me from writing an extra book a year to generate income for my family, it&#8217;s a trade-off I wouldn&#8217;t recommend to every author unless the program they&#8217;re designing is something they are truly passionate about.</p>
<p>The last thing to keep in mind is that, with a program like this, it&#8217;s an ongoing year-round reading initiative.  In my case, that means I don&#8217;t get to take a break from it when I&#8217;m deep in deadline mode or am finally taking a vacation with my family.  There are plenty of days where I feel like I have a second job&#8230; except instead of paying me, *I* pay *it*.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;s only because I&#8217;m passionate about keeping kids reading that it makes it all worthwhile in the end.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Internet to Promote a Book (without really trying). by Evil Genius</title>
		<link>http://diabolicaltoy.com/2011/05/12/how-to-use-the-internet-to-promote-a-book-without-really-trying/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil Genius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 20:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, blogs are a form of self publishing... which sometimes then become traditionally published books, or even television shows.  But that&#039;s another post...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, blogs are a form of self publishing&#8230; which sometimes then become traditionally published books, or even television shows.  But that&#8217;s another post&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Internet to Promote a Book (without really trying). by badstoryblog</title>
		<link>http://diabolicaltoy.com/2011/05/12/how-to-use-the-internet-to-promote-a-book-without-really-trying/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[badstoryblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 20:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is really interesting. A few friends and I recently started a blog and I am trying to read all marketing strategies I can find. I know this does not relate directly to blogs, but its still quite interesting to see what others have done to promote their product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really interesting. A few friends and I recently started a blog and I am trying to read all marketing strategies I can find. I know this does not relate directly to blogs, but its still quite interesting to see what others have done to promote their product.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do Bound Books, eReaders, iPads Determine Content? Twitter Chat #5 by Evil Genius</title>
		<link>http://diabolicaltoy.com/2011/05/10/ereaders-ipads-content-business-model/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil Genius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 21:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I think you&#039;re right on there.  Book length novels were once rare, but as they become more available, the length was standardized... over 250 pages anyway.  Why? Well, it needed to be thick enough to print the book title on the spine, so that it could be identified/discovered once it was shelved.

I love what you say about the evolution of records/vinyl: i think it&#039;s the perfect illustration of what&#039;s happening.  Each innovation is originally used to achieve an already known result more efficiently, but then new ways of using the innovation are developed... it&#039;s an evolution not only of devices, but content.   

You can fight it, but the winners of the game are those that use change as an opportunity to create something new.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think you&#8217;re right on there.  Book length novels were once rare, but as they become more available, the length was standardized&#8230; over 250 pages anyway.  Why? Well, it needed to be thick enough to print the book title on the spine, so that it could be identified/discovered once it was shelved.</p>
<p>I love what you say about the evolution of records/vinyl: i think it&#8217;s the perfect illustration of what&#8217;s happening.  Each innovation is originally used to achieve an already known result more efficiently, but then new ways of using the innovation are developed&#8230; it&#8217;s an evolution not only of devices, but content.   </p>
<p>You can fight it, but the winners of the game are those that use change as an opportunity to create something new.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do Bound Books, eReaders, iPads Determine Content? Twitter Chat #5 by Patrick Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 21:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well put. It will be exciting to see how the containers help the content evolve, as for example the length available on a vinyl record influenced the structure of thematic albums like Dark Side of the Moon. I&#039;m always open to new ways to enjoy creative output.

Nick Carr in The Shallows notes that book-length works were rare before the printing press put books in everyone&#039;s hands. My hope is that as new media emerges, we don&#039;t lose &quot;old&quot; ones that are still enjoyable (I&#039;m thinking an old-fashioned book without video or other stimuli!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put. It will be exciting to see how the containers help the content evolve, as for example the length available on a vinyl record influenced the structure of thematic albums like Dark Side of the Moon. I&#8217;m always open to new ways to enjoy creative output.</p>
<p>Nick Carr in The Shallows notes that book-length works were rare before the printing press put books in everyone&#8217;s hands. My hope is that as new media emerges, we don&#8217;t lose &#8220;old&#8221; ones that are still enjoyable (I&#8217;m thinking an old-fashioned book without video or other stimuli!).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do Bound Books, eReaders, iPads Determine Content? Twitter Chat #5 by Evil Genius</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil Genius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 21:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I think it&#039;s pretty obvious that I agree with you... but I don&#039;t think most consumers actually think much about the value of creative work.  They want to be entertained, educated, engaged... I think that content needs to be created with the end consumer in mind.  Shorter chapters written with backlit devices in mind, with more visual impact, for instance, rather than arbitrarily cutting a larger chapter into small chunks.

But while I always hesitate to use the word &quot;transmedia&quot; (until we find something better, then transmedia it is), I think that we have opportunities to tell stories differently, in richer, more complex ways.  It&#039;s a different process, with a range of different results, but I think more tailored choices will result in more consumers of literature, in all it&#039;s forms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think it&#8217;s pretty obvious that I agree with you&#8230; but I don&#8217;t think most consumers actually think much about the value of creative work.  They want to be entertained, educated, engaged&#8230; I think that content needs to be created with the end consumer in mind.  Shorter chapters written with backlit devices in mind, with more visual impact, for instance, rather than arbitrarily cutting a larger chapter into small chunks.</p>
<p>But while I always hesitate to use the word &#8220;transmedia&#8221; (until we find something better, then transmedia it is), I think that we have opportunities to tell stories differently, in richer, more complex ways.  It&#8217;s a different process, with a range of different results, but I think more tailored choices will result in more consumers of literature, in all it&#8217;s forms.</p>
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